But with the version jump from 12 or 13 to 20 it was clear for me where the journey would go. Canon’s high end APS-C mirrorless camera has plenty of compelling features, but is it worth the price?
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Perhaps my Mac just works better. That doesn’t mean I don’t have frustration with it. The software is excellent and helps me with thousands upon thousands of sellable photos per year. I think it’s just fine. The fact that the keystone tool does not perform the correct distortion it produces parallelograms instead of rectangles, if you correct in two dimensions simultaneously , that “undo” is currently not working for some users, that healing layers can cause artefacts both during previewing and on export, etc.
C1 works fine for me but as a pro, I would not rely on a tool that cannot re-locate images from one folder location to another without dropping some and getting its image counts mixed up. I’ve had folders with “-1” negative one! As another example, there is a “Known Issue” about importing a catalog may mean that the last image is not imported.
This may be acceptable for amateur-level consumers but pros should be expecting more. FWIW, I don’t care how bad other software is. I had those issues moving images too. Metadata, including edits, quite often gets left behind too. I used to recommend C1 to others but no longer do so. Customer requests are being ignored and V21 is therefore still full of unnecessary limitations. Worse, it also features many old and new bugs. I don’t mind paying a premium price for a premium product but C1 is just way too buggy to command the prices they started asking for it.
V21 has issues with undo, exporting images with heal layers , the keystone tool is still broken, etc. The complete list of issues remaining with the software is embarrassingly long. I won’t upgrade to V21 and at this rate it seems very unlikely I’ll ever upgrade again. Too bad, there was so much potential in C1.
I had bought the version 20 for Nikon and now I should pay almost the complete amount again. In addition, you only get one license instead of two as before. Nice try. I suspect Adrenochrom has been fooled by the fact that you have to go into the website and clear no longer used activations to get back your full set.
That said, I must agree about the raise in upgrade prices, the prices themselves, and the paucity of features and fixes they eke out a little each year. Capture One 20 was a decent upgrade adding in two I think prior years. At the appearance and pricing of 21, it will be a while before i would consider doing it again.
Subscription makes sense only for businesses, and if they update cameras or lenses. Danes know about respect; they also know sometimes they don’t like to give it, children onwards.
This grab for money is kind of the way of a certain personality of child. Knowing software, besides culture, I’d like to be sympathetic, but it’s difficult, feeling the presence of arrogance, and self-belief in a hard nose. Ok, I own the Nikon version of CapturOne20, until last week I was shown on their website that CaptureOne21 Nikon can only be installed on one computer instead of two, this week it’s back to 2 seats. Anyway, CaptureONe Pro was 3 seats and is now only for 2 seats whatever.
At least they seem to be trying to listen to their customers, because the limitation of the number of seats has been mentioned and criticized in various places and was so puplished on their website.
I’d checked the website for my C1 20 and found 3 license uses still available, but that is keeping legacy, not apparently what they do on some, or is it all? I guess they must be concerned that some customers may be blurring the line to let several workers use the same license..
It’s hard to know their real situation with subsidies now from larger brands, rather than the expensive backs. It occurs to me that what can look like arrogance may rather be indication of struggle, and in software, not to say keeping up with professional lens profiles, there are many challenges.
I currently run C1 Ver. Since the added features in Ver. Therefore I will have to factor in the C1 update price when looking for a new camera. Sadly, they 1 dropped the ability to replace layers in target images; now only adding is possible. Give with one hand, take away with the other. A fix only addressed half of the problems; usability is now still worse than it was in V Users see artefacts on their screens and get corrupt exports, when healing layers are used.
So, so disappointed with this. Had intended to purchase C1 last evening, and the first I knew of the price increase was when I went to the website.
I’m a hobbyist photographer, and whilst I understand that C1 is professional software, that does not mean it doesn’t have appeal to an amateur, especially as there is an option for a perpetual license. I would imagine that most pros would want the full version, and perhaps the brand specific version was supposed to appeal to people like me?
Disappointing as I’d put the purchase off until after xmas to spread my outgoings a little, especially as money has become tight in a pandemic. One lost customer. Point completely understood. I have the trial version of C1 21 installed in my IMac and have been blown away by how much I can improve my old Nikon files from the last decade. Same here. I would be happy for perhaps a less-pro version that is maybe slower than the proversion.
Something not ideal for professional workflows but fine for amateurs who can wait a little longer and may be an upgrader to pro. A bit like video software Davinci Resolve free Vs paid. I don’t get the claim about “much better RAW converter”. Maybe that is true for Fuji cameras where Adobe may still employ an inferior technology but for most cameras, the difference between C1 and LR is in the default settings.
This is my experience with Sony and Nikon cameras. The shadow slider, for example, gives a much more polished and contrasty result. Also, no tool gives as much flexibility with individual colours as C1 goes. My point is the time taken to get the best the files can be. As a result, I love C1. If the market can bear it, it will. Phillip, as a landscape photographer, I am not able to get the same impact as easily in LR as in C1 Pro. We can share files and discuss further off-line.
A price increase always sucks, but I think once the pandemic is over we will see price increases for everything. And this was pretty much predictable anyway.
Especially with Fuji, once you get used to it, C1 offers a far better experience and results better raw processing, better colours, profiles, quicker editing. Now it is pretty much the most recommended software in the Fuji forums.
A price increase was bound to follow. Low price to increase market presence, then increase. And a perpetual licence also means you don’t need to upgrade every year. That’s the point. So you still save over lightroom every time you skip a year. Personally I’ll wait until they improve the CA module or negate my need to export to Affinity for e.
Adobe who? A second seat essentially means you can, as per the license, install and use the software on 2 separate computers. This covers people who have a laptop and a desktop with C1 installed on both. Then the article wrongly claims under the previous pricing only a single seat was available. My licence of C1 clearly states two installs on two devices. Or did he just lump them in with the other usurers?
Skipping a year is all well and good if you don’t lock yourself out of an upgrade price in future by doing so. Sure paying full upgrade price every other year might be a way to reduce costs over a period of years regardless but some loyalty to existing users would not go amiss.
They will get more people upgrading if they do. They have set of on a risky path here charging more than the Adobe photography plan and if they annoy people with what they perceive as price gouging they won’t upgrade again. If you get the –already excellent– free version for your camera brand Fujifilm, Sony, and Nikon only then they will eventually email you one of those discount coupons. Professional tools are expensive because they offer that little extra percentage of overall quality in given time, no matter if there are pros that practically don’t understand the terms in C.
O’s menus and just play with sliders or basic corrections I’ve seen it with my own eyes more than just rarely Considering their updates history, C1 is basically a one time purchase without further updates. It is insane that a simple compatibility updates can’t be added for newer bodies. There are many expensive softwares, but none of them has such poor updates policy. While compatibility updates would be great, I foresee their argument of going with a subscription model in that case.
I am somewhat grateful that there IS a perpetual license model. If you’re a hobbyist and changing cameras at a pace of 5 years and use the editing software on a weekly or monthly basis, subscription models have extremely low value for money. C1 had quite attractive promotions in the past. Otherwise, I’d say you’d have to include software price in your considerations when buying a new camera body Looking at the price increase of camera gears R5, zoom..
I think PROs which may upgrade gear every year, those prices should be nothing as photo gear is way more expensive. Also think that software development costs money to make and maintain. And what about the software developers, if they go, the knowledge goes away, so money must be made to keep them around.
Money is being made through extensive and relevant software updates. Giving your customers added value to their purchase. Not via the easy solution that Capture One seem to have adopted. That will only lead to short term gain and long term loss.
Capture One is an essential part of commercial work for its tethering ability. The cost may be high, but it works while the client’s are staring at the monitor.
There may be other raw convertors, but none of them tether as well. Do I like the increased cost? Not really, but the clients impression means a lot. I agree C1 is by far the best at tethering.
All the pricing changes could be a storm in a tea cup, as they routinely issue discount codes. I do think the announcement of a price rise was poorly timed, especially given the relatively poor reception of C21 and the lack of support for a number of camera bodies.
I think the company need to interact more with its customer base, even the C1 forums have no support interaction, leaving customers frustrated or reliant on other users to help them out.
Time will tell, whether they get away with it. But it does not show a good competition analysis and sensibility towards their covid shaken customer base, many of them without an appropriate health insurance and covid impacted businesses. Obviously doesn’t have all the features but still give you enough. I am glad I didn’t use their products I think these pricing plans are suicidal while many people don’t even have a job.
The prices are for those who have a job, just like the price of cars, airplanes, boats, professional cameras, printers and lighting equipment. For those who like to use the free software, etc. If you get the right deal, you can break even with Adobe leasing model in just over a year. And then never have to pay a penny more if you don’t want. And while new camera models may not be supported, if you change cameras every couple not years, saving money is not your priority anyway.
Tons of people. But some people have always whined and claimed they would be willing to pay much more upfront to avoid a subscription. I guess this is the option they were asking for. Canon user, no reduced price version of C1 available 2. C1 pricing in Euro much higher than in USD 3. Canon DPP raw engine with powerful editing functionality with full local edits on raws and reasonably intuitive user interface – as in LR “develop” module.
Exposure X6 is pretty close to what you describe. With Topaz Denoise and Affinity Photo you get everything you need as amateur. Thanks for suggestion, but I don’t think so. I want 1 single software to do all work on raw files all the way to output. Been there, done that, horror! One single, integrated software package with enough functionality for my needs and reasonably intuitive UI was the major attraction of LR to me.
I was and am quite happy with it as permanent license. Bought updates every years or so, whenever I saw some worthwhile improvement for my workflow was added. I don’t understand why Adobe is willing to maintain their functionally hopelessly underpowered PS Elements – with permanent license!
I got a good 4 years out of LR 6 standalone. But various people would probably disagree with you about what elements should be included – e. The problem with any such “solution” is that it just wouldn’t be a viable proposition for Adobe. They, like any other company are a business that wants to generate the largest profit they can get away with.
That’s why they use the subscription model – which is actually extremely good value compared to the alternative of purchasing new “perpetual” software everytime you add a new camera or lens to your kit.
Photographers are a funny bunch, they will spend thousands on camera equipment and upgrade often, they will buy computers, expensive monitors but when it comes to software it needs to be somewhere close to free. Lightroom and photoshop deal, it’s costs me 12 euro per month, I get updates it works great. It’s no worse in terms of cost than netflix or spotify or tidal or most of the other services people willingly pay for.
At least with the Adobe deal or Capture One you get to keep all your images and if you exported them as Tiffs or JPGs you get the edited version too. With all the those streaming services when you quit you get nothing. Stujomo – I couldn’t agree more. I wonder sometimes if these whingers realise that almost everything in their life is paid by “subscription” or regular instalments of one kind or another – mortgages, car purchase, vehicle tax, home and car insurance, motor fuel, electricity, gas, landline and mobile bills, water supply, sewage, club memberships etc.
So, by refusing to sell “LR lite” for eg. PS: also don’t have any subscriptions for Netflix, amazon prime, Spotify etc. I try as best as I can to not add more “automated monthly money suckers” to my bank account.
Want to upgrade it some time to a mirrorfree FF camera with MP to natively fill any 8k display with quality pixels plus some cropping reserve. My guess is around Black Friday Yes, also an 8k monitor.
My guess is also around black Friday Plus a large 8k display eg TV set as decent digital picture frame on my wall. Maybe already by Black Friday , but want camera first. LR and Photoshop for ten dollars a month? You better believe that’s a bargain. Capture One no way, no how. It’s kept constantly up to date with the latest camera and lens profiles, and gets extra functionality and speed enhancements about 3 or 4 times a year.
There were other minor reductions for other versions with styles and such. However, after subscribing updating to Capture One 21, it deactivated my license for V20!
Capture one is a great program, but the company is getting greedier and greedier with time. Once you change programs, you lose all your edits and have to start over. You can apply that to old versions e.
They really need to communicate this better. I’ve never allowed my files to be held hostage by software whether it’s photographs or document formats. Use software to initially organize, but for the master file s , manually organize your major edits, partial edits, etc. Also, are their company direct and indirect costs getting higher and higher as time as well?
C1 is way too expensive for non Pro use. Adobe is smarter than this. This is shown in the invoice. Canon user here, so only C1 21 Pro is applicable, permanent license, no superfluous styles needed. Teila Day, “.. Sorry, I don’t buy that argument. As the character House said, “You don’t get what you deserve, you get what you get. The latest update is another example of, IMO, poor business practice. They have an update coming but don’t tell anyone what the update is going to be.
Then toss on a discount for those that buy it ahead of time. A few years ago, I trashed Adobe for its subscription model, but it’s a deal now and makes a great combination package. Capture One is not a full-fledged package at present. It is missing some useful features.
But, because I choose virtual editing, I’m locked in for now. If a program has features or speeds that make your life considerably easier, then that’s value inherent to that software.. The bottom line is that C1 offers notably quick editing for many users in order to get to the results that they like, faster than competing products. C1 like Photoshop is something that I’d only purchase every blue moon.
I don’t have a need to upgrade C1 until it’s worth it to me which likely won’t be for a few years. I don’t mind Adobe, et al. I won’t comment on Phase One’s business practices because it doesn’t affect me enough for me to worry about it. For Sony cameras try this free Sony software. For perpetual it sound like a good idea at first but they have been releasing new version every year so your version will not get any update after 1 year. The price of upgrading perpetual license is enough to pay adobe subscription – which you get both lightroom and photoshop.
If you know you are not going to get any new gears, and does not need any new software update support, then getting perpetual license is fine. Otherwise consider other product. What you outline is exactly why I said NO to C1. The price squeeze has been on for awhile now.
Business for them is getting harder and harder. The hype pressure is leaking, a flat tire is coming. Competition is making holes in C1’s future. I lost a lot of respect when the new feature teaser videos came out, and there were only two.
Unfortunately I know of at least one guy who paid up for the upgrade sight unseen and was grossly disappointed and felt duped. His own fault really. But if I am getting a new camera it sucks to know that my raw file will not be supported by the software and will need to pay the premium just to get the raw file imported.
Like photoshop or any software, I skip the soft updates and only update if the new features are compelling enough for me, otherwise I keep using C1 20 or in the case of Photoshop, CS6. Seems to me if one only uses what’s actually needed, these so called “price hikes” hardly what I’d call ‘expensive’ for what one’s getting aren’t much of a ‘hike’ at all There is plenty of RAW converters out there to choose from – free, cheap and sort of expensive.
The choice is yours. We live in a free market economy and no one can force you to spend your money on something you do not want. I have been C1 user for nearly 20 years but have not upgraded to the latest version.
I am happy to keep on using the version I have for years to come since I do not really need the new offerings in v. So, I am well covered for all my needs, these price hikes do not affect me at all. For me the clone and healing tools introduced in I’m passing on v21 though. The good thing unless they change it is that the upgrade cost from v20 to v22 will likely be the same as the upgrade cost from v21 to v So they don’t penalize you if you skip one upgrade. MikeRan This is the great thing about the choice we have and the informed decisions we can make based on our individual needs.
Most of the softwares these days have a free trial period too, so we can try them before committing. We have been spoiled for choice in so many ways for a long time. I do not really get the whining of some people complaining about a software being too expensive or too limiting in features or too this or too that. If it is too expensive for you or you do not like its features, do not buy it and try something else! It is as simple as that.
Some people will never be happy no matter what. I appreciate C1 but it is way too expensive compared to adobe. It might be a little betten in some ways but not enough for me to switch.
Plus I still need photoshop also, therefore can not escape Adobe. It’s been more than a couple of years now, free from under Capture One’s ‘nickel and dime’ squeeze pricing approach. Just more business pressure. C1 that you can use year after year for those who don’t upgrade just because , for either your enjoyment, artistic pursuits, or for actual paid work is considerably cheaper than a good pair of heels or a nice leather purse or jacket. About the same cost as a reasonably sturdy wheeled light stand or aluminum tripod.
Do you need upgrades that much? I sure don’t. The brand specific versions used to be 2 seats. With C1 version 21 released last month those numbers dropped by 1. So full pro became 2 seats and brand specific pro became 1 seat. This pricing change is only one month later. The juggling of the of seats is as annoying as anything else, I can look at a new version and figure out whether the upgrade is worth it or not pretty easily but the of seats seems to vary not just by version but by date of purchase for each version if you just happened to buy a ver.
Definitely some questionable business practices. All that being said, the software for me is way better than Lightroom. So for now I continue to use it.
Version Yeah v20 was the first one I’ve tried and I’m sticking with it for now, I do like it, luckily I don’t intend to get a new body anytime soon. While it boasted quite a few advanced features, it was accompanied by a hefty price tag.
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Now reading: Some versions of Capture One are now more expensive comments. As of January 11, , these are the prices for Capture One products. The branded versions, along with the price increase, now include a pair of seats, whereas they previously included only a single seat. Click to enlarge. Current subscription pricing for Capture One. Tags: capture-one , editing , post-processing , software , software-news. View Comments Comments All We will also continue to provide feature updates during the life of Capture One One of the things is making sure that you can work on as many types of RAW images as possible, regardless of whether they come from.
We continue to strengthen our very close collaboration with hardware manufacturers and we will continue to add specific profiles for cameras and lenses to Capture One software. Will my software continue to work? You will continue to pay the same amount you do now and over the same time period eg. You will receive your free upgrade in early April You can see an overview of how to upgrade in this article above.
We will contact you closer to the date with a reminder and instructions on how to upgrade. I am eligible for a free upgrade but I want to stay on my current version. Can I do that? While we recommend users upgrade to the latest version where available, you can continue to stay on your current version which will continue to work as it is. While we recommend you upgrade as soon as possible, the opportunity will be available to you until the release of Capture One 23, expected in the latter part of
